#cleopatra with the nose knocked off. I wonder if people still think she was European like the movies betray…
I still think it’s one of the most desperate things whites have done to blacks and to black history. The disrespect is outrageous. They came to our country and mentally could not fathom how these black civilizations could be so great. They literally rode through our lands and shot the noses off of our statues. Why? So that the statues would no longer resemble the African people and they could LIE about the origins of Egypt and countless other civilizations. It was a widespread practice. It’s why statues of Pharaoh’s and their wives have no noses. It’s why the Sphinx has no nose. When I was in middle and high school, we were taught that the noses had fell off due to time and poor craftsmanship! They have literally tried to teach us that our ancestors were shitty builders of noses just to hide their malicious destruction of our heritage. European fears of African peoples had to come from somewhere. I want to know what part of the history is missing. There’s something that they don’t want to be told.
The shade is real
i was taught that the noses fell off as well and actually continued to believe this. in retrospect this makes no sense, considering greek/roman statues pretty much always have intact noses whereas egyptian ones are always conveniently missing theirs. thank you for pointing this out to me, i hadn’t even made that connection until now.
The bolded was me too and I am seriously embarrassed that I never even thought about how that could be false.
Damnnn. I hate myself for not realizing this.
I hate myself even more, since I know the ancient Egyptians created their sculptural works with the idea of permanence in mind. They were literally built to last throughout the afterlife. Notice how the majority of their monumental sculpture is stone-bound, without any protruding elements or breakable appendages. That’s because many of these sculptures were intended to house the life-force (Ka) of those they portrayed. Of their favorite materials were basalt and diorite, both extremely hard stones that were incredibly difficult to carve. Meaning a nose just doesn’t “fall off” because of “poor craftsmanship,” you would literally have to take a hammer to it. Fuckers.
Cleopatra was black, she was as black as Cicely Tyson. -Paul Mooney
Don’t hate yourself, and don’t be embarrassed. This is one of the biggest things that they have done to try and uphold the myth of Black inferiority/White supremacy. Erasing Blackness is what they’ve been doing since Day 1. They’ve done it then, they do it now, and they’ll keep doing it until the world ends.
Hold up, I was taught that the noses of sculptures and sarcophagi and the like were knocked off because they had curses on them. The ancient Egyptians thought that the only way to break a curse on stuff was to break the nose off of them?
CLEOPATRA WAS NOT BLACK.
Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator (Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ) was of Grecian descent, the last member of the Ptolemaic dynasty—which is why it is spoken of Egypt’s Hellenistic period—who came from the Macedonian general Ptolemy who, succeeding to Alexander the Great, proclaimed himself Basileus (= king), and not Pharaoh, of Egypt. The Ptolemaic dynasty mostly constitutes of inbreeding and plotting. Also, colonising.
The question of Cleopatra’s possibly mixed parentage issued from the discovery, in 1929, of a great mausoleum in Ephesus that contained a skeleton that is generally attributed to her younger sister Arsinoe IV (Ἀρσινόη); exiled in Ephesus by her sister, Arsinoe was murdered on the steps of the temple of Diana—a grave offence—on Marc-Antony’s orders but on the instigation of Cleopatra. Arsinoe was 20-something when she died.
As it happens, part of the material including the skull was lost during WWII and the 2007 team led by Hilke Thüre had to work with archives from the 1920s team; which renders her proclamation that Arsinoe had an African mother difficult to prove, although it wouldn’t be surprising given the place and time. Alas, we have no certainty, being unable even to be sure that the remnants be Arsinoe’s anyway—and this would still the only biological evidence of the Ptolemaic dynasty—only adding to the fact that some specialists actually suspect Cleopatra and Arsinoe to have been half-sisters, from different mothers.
(Facial reconstitution for Arsinoe by anthropologist Fabian Kanz, from the Medical University of Vienna. Based on… about zero evidence.)
Note that, unlike Cleopatra, Arsinoe was celebrated for her beauty. Setting aside all obligatory comparisons with divinity, chroniclers and poets alike tactfully avoided to wax too many lies on the Queen’s appearance, which has generally led the specialists to believe that Cleopatra’s looks cannot have been too good. If coins in her image we’ve found so far are anything to judge from, the great woman might have been something of an eyesore, at the very least for the standards of her time. By the way, her nose was crooked.
What she was, however, for certain, is incredibly intelligent, spiritual and unbelievably cultured: besides Greek, her mother tongue, she learnt Egyptian—the first of her dynasty to do so!—but also Ethiopian, Median (north-western Iranian idiom spoken by the Medes), Arabic, Hebrew, and the language of the Troglodytae (southern Lybia). She was ambitious, a talented diplomat and strategist, and succeeded in remaining relatively free under Roman domination. Roman historians have made her brains much more famous than the fairly artificial and Caucasian beauty that Hollywood helped promote. The whole joke is that Cleopatra probably wasn’t remotely pretty and was still considered very desirable.
Ah, and, speaking of Caucasian prejudice:
HOW THE SPHINX LOST ITS NOSE
A certain number of theories have been made across the centuries but the most recent (and serious) ones speak of bouts of religious fervour that saw iconoclasts seek to mutilate or destroy proofs and source of pagan cults. Arab historian historian Ahmad al-Maqrīzī, notably, writing during the 15th century, declared that it was all one man’s fault, a soufi extremist who got hanged in 1378 for vandalism by the local peasants whose life depended on the Sphinx’s protection.
Famous egyptologist Mark Lehner showed in 1997 that the destruction of the nose, in any case, had been deliberate: long rods or chisels were hammered into it, one down from the bridge and one beneath the nostril, then used to pry the nose off towards the south. He situated it between the 10th and 15th centuries, which does, tantalizingly, corroborate the Arabic tales…